Two fighters on opposite sides of the Atlantic both appeared to have reached career crossroads this past weekend.
In the UK, John Murray lost the 'battle of Manchester' to former stable mate Anthony Crolla, being stopped on his feet, one eye grotesquely swelling after being dissected by a razor sharp jab for the majority of the 10 rounds.
In the US, Paulie Malignaggi found himself stopped by a rampaging Shawn Porter, not for the first time, but for the first time being felled hard and rescued by a referee who perhaps let him take a few more shots than necessary.
They both face a choice; to fight on, knowing that they have almost certainly peaked, or retire and move into other forms of employment.
Malignaggi has been a successful commentator on Showtime, as well as guest appearances in the UK where he has a reasonable profile after his losses to Hatton and Khan earlier in his career. Universally praised for his media work, all the signs point to retirement from fighting, but not from the fight game.
Murray on the other hand, faces a much tougher choice. Two years were spent on the shelf, due to a swollen pituitary gland, and the 'new and focused' Murray who has returned may be drinking less, but was getting his head snapped back with alarming regularity for a fighter who had his career put on hold for issues with his brain.
The prospect of permanent damage did not dissuade Murray from continuing applying the Brandon Rios tactical defense, which primarily involves taking huge amounts of punishment with no head movement in hope that the opponent will eventually succumb to the pressure.
Malignaggi could feasibly continue at a fairly high level, as a gatekeeper, and his slick and crafty style could ensure many nights where he took little punishment.
Malignaggi doesn't need to retire, but he almost certainly will. Murray needs to retire, for the sake of his health if not for his bank balance. Will he sense it's time to go? Probably.
Will he retire? Probably not.